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Poster: billbarstad Date: Apr 7, 2010 11:10am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder (1977)

Sorry, it's not PD:

Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000917528 / 2005-05-31
Renewal registration for: LP0000048747 / 1977-08-05
Title: Rolling thunder / by American International Pictures, Inc.
Notes: Motion picture.
Copyright Claimant: Orion Pictures Corporation (PWH)

Names: American International Pictures, Inc.
Orion Pictures Corporation

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Poster: PeteGCDB Date: Apr 7, 2010 12:00pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder (1977)

Thanks for the info Bill!

Just wondering, what part of the code tells you if a film is PD or not? If a film IS PD, what does it usually read?



This post was modified by PeteGCDB on 2010-04-07 18:56:43

This post was modified by PeteGCDB on 2010-04-07 18:59:13

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Apr 7, 2010 12:32pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder (1977)

What's printed in my reply is the copyright notice. The 2nd line shows that the copyright was renewed in 2005, with it's renewal registration number. The third line shows that it was registered with the copyright office in 1977, and it's registration number

If the movie was PD, there would be no renewal registration at the copyright office. For this movie, since it was registered in 1977, a search at USCO would turn up nothing if it had been PD, not even the original registration, because the online database only covers movies registered in or after 1978 or movies registered in or after 1950, and renewed. An original registration lasted 28 years. A renewal registration lasted an additional 67 years.

Hope that helps. This stuff can be confusing. Copyright laws have changed.

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Poster: PeteGCDB Date: Apr 7, 2010 12:38pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder (1977)

I can see how it can get confusing if youre not an archivist.

Ive noticed that a bunch of AIPs other titles, seen on Hulu like Coffy, Frogs, Thunder Alley, Empire of the Ants etc etc are up to watch for free. It would be interesting to know how many other AIP and other studios like New World Pictures titles are PD.

The reason Im interested is because Im developing a streaming video channel that shows specifically classic cult/exploitation films in connection with my website (www.grindhousedatabase.com). So I'm looking for content but Im not sure which films are PD. Alot of titles to go thru!

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Poster: HektorT Date: Apr 7, 2010 1:06pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder (1977)

Hulu is owned by NBC/Universal, News Corp,and Disney among others. So they don't have any problem showing copyrighted films. Some other streaming video or download sites like Jaman.com and ITunes also license the content on their sites. So when you pay to access it, they are paying the copyright owner. In the case of Hulu, it is free now, but some think it will be paid later. I think this is one example of the motion picture/TV industry trying to avoid what happened to the music industry by controlling the biggest online site.

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Poster: PeteGCDB Date: Apr 7, 2010 1:30pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder (1977)

I didnt even know that. I was thinking it was all public domain stuff. Hopefully I can find some more PD films with some research.

Thanks very much for your help!

Pete